Where Are They Now? Part Four: Kameron
Ruth Bieber-Stanley 鈥21
This post is the fourth and final installment of my 鈥淲here are they now?鈥 series, a collection of conversations with former 91直播 bloggers about their first years as 91直播 alumni. See my first post with alum Kira, my second post with Tegue, and my third post with Hanne.
Kameron (he/him/his) is originally from Detroit, MI, and graduated from 91直播 two years ago with a politics major and peace and conflict studies and rhetoric and composition double minor. During his time at 91直播, Kameron was involved in Student Senate and worked as a Writing Associate, among many other roles. After graduating he was accepted in a master鈥檚 program in politics and communications at the London School of Economics and Political Science and is almost done with his degree! With lots of political experience under his belt, Kameron is currently working as communications director for Samuel Vilchez Santiago鈥檚 state representative campaign in Florida鈥檚 48th district.
Note: This interview was conducted in late July, so the events described in this post may have already happened.
R: It鈥檚 so good to see you! How are you?
K: I鈥檓 good, how are you?
R: Doing well, given the circumstances. Are you at home right now?
K: I am. I鈥檓 back in Detroit, I鈥檝e been back since mid-March. How have you been?
R: Good! I just visited my grandma in Northern Idaho, and it was really lovely. This past weekend I鈥檝e had virtual PAL training with Nathan!
K: Yeah! How has that been?
R: Umm 鈥 I don鈥檛 know. It was kind of hard and tiring on Zoom and it was weird to jump on board so last minute, but I鈥檝e done it before, so I feel reasonably confident in my ability to help out these first-years, but it鈥檚 going to be so odd to do it virtually.
K: Yeah, it鈥檚 definitely a new situation, but I think that鈥檚 exciting to be a visionary in understanding what community looks like at this point 鈥 I鈥檓 just growing into the idea that we鈥檙e going to have to find new ways to do a lot of the things that we鈥檝e been doing. The sooner we can collectively rally around that, the better off we are.
R: Absolutely. And I just imagine that this year more than other years, there鈥檚 probably more anxiety around entering college. If I were a freshman, I might be taking a gap year! It鈥檚 gonna be so different. I鈥榤 just excited to be a reassuring presence for these first-years.
K: Word. I would probably take a gap year too, if I鈥檓 honest. But school online isn鈥檛 bad; it鈥檚 just different. Similar to you, I was abroad and came home in March. I was lucky that the Brits do school very differently from us in the states, so I only had like three weeks of digital school and it was all prerecorded lectures. But, we did find ways to have innovative group discussions and chat forums and different methods [to connect]. Based on what we see on TV and what I鈥檝e been reading, I didn鈥檛 really foresee a situation where colleges are actually bringing students back to campus, so I think it鈥檚 really interesting that 91直播 is doing what they鈥檙e doing. I鈥檓 curious to see how it turns out. [note: so far, so good!]
R: Yeah. I鈥檝e been surprised too. I have a lot of friends who go to schools around the country and most of them are fully online. It鈥檚 impressive and I鈥檝e been encouraged by the thoroughness of all the information that 91直播 has been putting out, they鈥檙e really going for it!
K: Yep, full send!
R: Yeah exactly! (I laugh). It鈥檚 great and I鈥檓 very lucky. This is obviously not how I envisioned my last year of college going, but at least being in 91直播 is better than staying at home for another year. I鈥檓 also living with some friends, which I think will be huge.
What have you been doing with yourself since coming home?
K: What have I been doing with myself? A LOT of TV. I鈥檝e been watching all sorts of things. Right now, I鈥檓 on a Fresh Prince kick鈥 Outside of TV I鈥檝e been doing a lot of school. I had a lot of research work to do with all my finals, and now I鈥檓 working on my master鈥檚 thesis, which is taking a racialized and gendered look at the #MeToo movement and political media specifically and understanding that landscape. I鈥檝e been working on that and it鈥檚 due at the end of this month, which is frightening, but after that, I鈥檒l be done with grad school.
R: Wowww!!!
K: And I鈥檒l be one degree hotter, as the kids say!
R: Amazing!
K: So, I鈥檓 excited about that. And I guess a more fun thing is that I鈥檝e been working with a candidate in Florida who鈥檚 a friend of mine. I met him at the summer program I did called the Mt. Vernon Leadership Fellows Program in D.C. a couple of summers ago. His name is Samuel Vilchez Santiago and he鈥檚 running for state rep in Florida鈥檚 48th district. And he鈥檚 really cool 鈥 he鈥檚 23 and has a really inspiring story of coming to Florida from Venezuela as a refugee, learning English, becoming his high school valedictorian, and finding all these ways to be involved with his community.
I鈥檝e had a lot of opportunities to play communications director. It feels weird using big boy titles, even if I鈥檓 doing big boy work. I don鈥檛 really feel like a big boy yet, but it鈥檚 been really cool doing big boy work, or big person work, I guess. So I鈥檝e been working as his communications director; it鈥檚 pretty cool.
The past few years have been really exhausting in politics, which was really convenient after getting an undergrad degree in politics (I laugh) and then a master鈥檚 in political communication, which was kind of bumming me out, it honestly was. Sometimes it feels like the bad guys just keep winning and there鈥檚 no recourse. But I think working with Sam, who鈥檚 this very young, motivated person, has gotten me 鈥渋n the game鈥 a bit more and helped me to find constructive ways that I can help. Which was tough, because sometimes [the person running] just doesn鈥檛 do it for you! It can be a real negotiation.
R: I can imagine that being in the world of politics, it would be so hard to not become cynical.
K: Oh, I am.
R: (laughs).
K: A lot of my friends say I鈥檓 pretty cynical. But it鈥檚 not a malicious cynicism. It鈥檚 more like, if you don鈥檛 get your hopes up, you won鈥檛 be disappointed. One thing I鈥檝e gotten really good at is not editorializing things happening around me and just taking them at face value. I think that I鈥檓 able to get a more accurate view of things. That鈥檚 not to say that situational awareness and context aren鈥檛 important, but if I tried to figure out why everything in the world was happening, I would lose my mind and it would really not be good for me 鈥 I think we should do ourselves a service and be honest about what our realities are.
R: Yeah, totally. How has campaigning looked different in a pandemic?
K: That鈥檚 a good question. Because I鈥檓 not in Florida I have the luxury of not having to canvas, which is my least favorite part, generally. It鈥檚 very important, which is why we do it, but beyond that it鈥檚 still hot and sweaty. Much love to my candidate, but I鈥檓 happy I don鈥檛 have to do that!
But there are also new challenges; we鈥檙e doing contactless drop-off materials so people are aware of us. I do miss the campaign energy, which is what motivates people to work long hours or do the laborious work often without luxurious compensation, but it鈥檚 that energy that makes people want to participate, and it鈥檚 hard to recreate that specific aura at a distance.
... And it鈥檚 also interesting to have this experience with a relatively certain cutoff date. I鈥檓 starting a job as a management consultant soon for a firm, which is totally divergent from what I鈥檝e studied and done in the past. But I鈥檓 pretty excited about that.
R: That鈥檚 awesome! That鈥檚 so great to have any kind of certainty right now. Kudos to you.
K: I鈥檓 really excited about that and it鈥檚 something I haven鈥檛 done before. The opportunities have sort of been presented to me 鈥 and I鈥檓 excited to see what consulting can do.
R: Absolutely, yeah. I was just curious, have you had any unexpected 91直播 connections in the world? I feel like I hear stories about weird coincidences all the time.
K: In short, I find little 91直播 connections all the time. One time I was in a class at LSE [London School of Economics] and we were all talking about where we鈥檙e from, and there was another American saying that he went to a small liberal arts college in NE Ohio, so I asked him after class and asked if he went to 91直播 and he said no, he went to Kenyon!
R: (I groan and laugh) [Kenyon and 91直播 are rival schools]
K: So, it wasn鈥檛 an 91直播 connection but still related. I walked by a building in London which I learned was the 91直播-in-London building, which was cool. And I think I see or hear about Obies like, all the time. I think it鈥檚 been great to keep in touch with a lot of my friends from 91直播. Before the pandemic, a couple of Obie friends visited me in London or I visited them elsewhere. A cool part about the 91直播 network is that people are all over the place, so especially when you鈥檙e traveling, Obies are very hospitable.I have a lot of thoughts about a lot of things about 91直播 but it鈥檚 always fun to be an alum.
R: It鈥檚 interesting to think about where all of my friends will be a year from now. I imagine that we鈥檒l be scattered all over the world, really. I mean, I鈥檓 trying to go back to Germany. I鈥檓 curious to see where everyone goes and what they do.
K: Word. It鈥檚 cool to see where my friends are and that they鈥檙e doing a variety of things, I mean I have friends in grad school, friends starting business ventures, friends not trying to start anything at all, it鈥檚 all over the place.
R: Absolutely. I think part of the reason I wanted to do this little series is that I don鈥檛 have a lot of 91直播 connections with alumni since most of my friends are in my year. I wanted to show the diversity of experiences that people have after they graduate, because people are all over the place and doing all sorts of different things, even within the interviews that I鈥檝e done [in this series]. It鈥檚 kind of what I was hoping for.
Do you still follow the 91直播 blogs at all? I鈥檓 curious.
K: I try to. Occasionally I browse them. I think I read the 91直播 Review more than the blogs, though. I probably should read the blogs more, y鈥檃ll have interesting opinions about things. I鈥檓 very happy to be talking to you and to hear that the blogs are still kicking.
R: Yeah, it is interesting to see people cycling through because now I鈥檓 one of the oldest bloggers. I don鈥檛 even think there are that many in my year, most of them are younger. It鈥檚 been really interesting seeing the new voices come onto the blogs, and I might be鈥n the blog hiring committee this coming year, so I鈥檓 really excited to help curate the next generation of 91直播 bloggers! (laughs).
K: Yeah! That鈥檚 awesome! This is so full circle because I鈥檓 almost a hundred percent certain I was on your selection committee.
R: Oh my gosh! I鈥檝e found that I鈥檝e had some unexpected full circle moments at 91直播. I remember as a prospie I came to visit 91直播 in mid-March of my senior year and I sat in on this class. I remember there was one student who I was particularly impressed by. I was so blown away. Fast forward to a year later, I had a class with that person! It was just a cool moment. Even just thinking about the blogs, reading your blog, or Kira and Teague鈥檚 blogs, and now I鈥檓 interviewing you for my own blog, it鈥檚 just cool how things work out.
K: Word!
R: Maybe I鈥檒l suggest doing some virtual blogger meetings so that people can connect, which is what everyone wants right now.
K: Yeah, it would be cool to meet some of the new bloggers. I remember that I always wanted to meet Simba. That was my blog. I read all the posts before I came. He was long gone before I even got to 91直播, and then he went on to write for the Atlantic.
R: Whoa, that鈥檚 awesome! I had no idea. I feel like a lot of bloggers have a certain blog that they read a lot that inspired them to be a blogger, for me that person was Ida Hoequist. I actually emailed them after I got into 91直播 to thank them for helping me pick 91直播.
K: Yeah, I remember! I think you wrote about Ida in your blog application.
R: Yeah, I did! But yeah, I wrote them an email 鈥 and then I had a student comment on one of my posts that said, 鈥淚 love your blog, it helped me decide to come to 91直播!鈥 Which was so cute, and again, it was one of those full-circle moments. And it鈥檚 gratifying because sometimes you鈥檙e putting your words out there and you don鈥檛 know if anyone鈥檚 reading it except your mom and your three friends; it鈥檚 validating.
Do you have your own blog now, or a newsletter? I鈥檝e been thinking about how I want to keep writing and maybe blogging after I graduate.
K: So, I have my own website, it鈥檚 . It鈥檚 basically a blog. It鈥檚 usually focused on politics, current events at 91直播, and travel. I just put different parts of me and things I want to share into the public sphere.
R: That鈥檚 cool! I鈥檓 always surprised to hear who鈥檚 reading my stuff sometimes, like my friend's mom or some person I went to high school with. I want to keep people apprised of what I鈥檓 doing but I also enjoy processing and understanding my experiences through writing, even if it is in a public way.
K: I think one thing that we as writers have to contend with, which has been exacerbated in quarantine, is sometimes I feel like it feels like we鈥檙e writing into the void, but right now it feels like people are listening, I鈥檓 listening, so keep going. I think you鈥檒l actually find that there are more things you want to write about [after you graduate] and it鈥檚 less of a job. I think you鈥檒l be all right.
R: That鈥檚 comforting to hear, in a way. It鈥檚 an interesting time for sure, very unpredictable. I鈥檓 a planner, so it鈥檚 good for me to shake things up a bit (laughs).
K: Right, right! Well, I really appreciated talking to you, and it was good to catch up. I appreciate the full circle, as we talked about. I鈥檓 excited to see how you are able to lead a new generation of bloggers.
R: It was wonderful to talk to you as well! I鈥檓 excited to see what happens with the blogs and everything else.
K: Take care, Ruth; thank you so much!
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